re-evaluate installation order of packages in chapter 6, plus move these for sure:

[gerard@…]

Why is texinfo installed so early in chapter 6 instead of later down the road (alphabetically), we have a static texinfo from chap5 already.

I'm sure there was a good reason, just can't remember why, so let's figure out why

[gerard@…]

There seems to be more than just texinfo. I don't want to move packages around now and start breaking things. This needs more thorough checks, so we'll do it later.

[gerard@…]

gcc immediately after glibc (perhaps glibc, then makedev, then gcc).

gcc _may_ need findutils, do a build in chapter 6 with and without a static findutils. mv creating of passwd and group files to chapter 6.

[markh@…]

recommend order: MAKEDEV (1.4 when I finish it! 1.3 won't work like this) glibc - remove manual creation of /dev/null gcc man-pages ncurses

then can we go into alphabetical order? Needs checking...

[markh@…]

if gcc is immediately reinstalled after Glibc, there's no need for a c++ compiler anymore, so we can skip building a static version of it and save quite a bit of compiling time in chapter 5 (copied from bug 209 which I've closed as a duplicate)

[markh@…]

* Bug 209 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *

[gerard@…]

let's see what that make-devices thing is that Matthias submitted. It could replace MAKEDEV all together, right?

[gerard@…]

I don't want this bug to be touched until we've fixed most of the other bugs that are open. Closing this is probably going to warrant a new major LFS release (4.0) so I rather do it when we can say "ok let's release LFS-4.0, bugzilla is empty now".

[gimli@…]

Proposal:

glibc man-pages gcc bison file ncurses gettext sh-utils bash binutils bzip2 diffutils e2fsprogs fileutils findutils flex gawk grep groff gzip less libtool m4 make net-tools netkit-base patch procps psmisc sed shadow sysklogd sysvinit tar texinfo textutils util-linux perl autoconf automake kbd man modutils

Some packages (bin86, lilo) etc are missing because I don't use them. I'll build an LFS system with this order and the missing packages soon.

[gerard@…]

In the new setup, with the keep-chap-5-6-sep hint and other changes, gcc will be reinstalled immediately after Glibc in chapter 6. This may bring other dependencies up front to chapter 5. I'm aware of a static findutils, and there may be others.

So that's why my last comment said "don't touch until everything else is done".

We're getting closer to be dealing with this one though, it'll approximately be done at the same time as the keep-chap-5-6 seperate hint implementation and perhaps a gcc-3 upgrade soon too

[markh@…]

I'd like to suggest putting man-pages *first* if possible. That way, if there are any conflicts with glibc man pages (I'm not sure at the moment but it could arise), the pages will be overwritten by those from the install packages.

[gimli@…]

DOH :) 213 should be 231

[gerard@…]

Aren't most packages already shuffled after the keep-5-6-seperate implementation? A quick shows the only remaining suggestion is to install man pages first so they can be overridden by package's native man pages if they exist.

[markh@…]

Agreed, this bug is nearly complete.

Shall we move man-pages to straight after the kernel-headers install? That way, every package which installs manual pages has the opporunity to overwrite the man-pages ones.

[gerard@…]

Sure put it after linux installation, that way it even fits in the alphabet (linux before man-pages)

[markh@…]

that's it I think. I've moved man-pages to after the kernel-headers so it appears the packages are re-ordered.